Tommy Wonder is one of the greatest magicians of all time. In this video, Aaron Fisher and the Conjuror Community team react to Tommy Wonder’s best magic.
If you’ve a fan of Tommy Wonder magic, this video is a homage to his incredible work (and we throw in a few ‘secrets’ from the pros that will help any student of Tommy’s work)
Speaker 1 (00:00):
And myself, cofounder of Chondra community. I’m joined today by my cofounder and best buddy Adam grace. Use your words, Adam.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I was trying, I was muted. Hello everybody. So happy that you joined us. Uh, if you’re watching on our YouTube channel, make sure you like and subscribe. Today’s going to be a very special show. We’re going to take a look at, uh, some, well, there’s some videos today of what we consider to be really great stuff. Now, the guys on the panel don’t exactly know what we’re going to watch yet, but it’s a surprise. Uh, but we’re going to start out by
Speaker 1 (00:37):
watching a, a, a routine by Tommy wander. And I think that when you guys, uh, I think when you guys see this, you’re going to all really, really like it. So let me just get a queued up here and yes, super surprise. That’s right. All right, just super surprise. Alright, here we go. Can’t, can’t promise as we get into this camp, can’t promise. If we don’t know what’s going to be, you can’t really promise. We’re going to have good language. Can’t promise. We’re going to know how we’re gonna react when you react. It’s, it’s just too dang live. It’s true. It’s true. Okay, here we go. I’m ready for it. Let’s take a look.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Let me see if I got a, I guess here I got the love. A surprise for you people. It’s little surprise, my watch, isn’t it?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Speaker 1 (01:46):
it is an onscreen. Okay, so I guess I did something wrong. Can you try that again? That is what they’re talking about Todd. When they say alive experience, you could have heard. We could have blown the R rating just now in spontaneous reaction. How about that? Can you see it now? Yeah. Ooh, Tommy wonder he taught us.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
My watch isn’t in there yet.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
[inaudible] a little surprise for later
Speaker 3 (02:19):
just to keep the suspense. Do you know, would you please take one of these cards but leave a picture card? Any other card is fine. I’m allowed to see you as well, so you can just take notes.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Okay. I would like you to write what’s
Speaker 3 (02:39):
your name on it? As large as possible so this will clear and visible. Did the volume stay loud? Wonderful. Everybody here. Now you see something strange has happened because all of the cards, they feel very normal. Like every other day. Just the working day for these guys except the four of hearts, it now feels very important. It’s logical. I’m chosen name on it. You can, you can see. Yeah, it’s a birthday card and you can see because if you place this four of hikes into the deck and you just do it, goes through the other cards to the top. It is on top. Now.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I went too fast.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
He went too fast.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I’ll do a song.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
It’s very simple. It’s about the meter. Well, it’s more on the bottom. I see. But that’s not so important. Important thing is the movement. They’ll do it. Slow kennel DIA and yet
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah. Well see how crisply he handles those. Like when he shows that he shows that card every single moment, it’s boom. It’s beautiful. It really is beautiful. Even in the nothing, you know? Let’s wait. I can’t wait to lay down something. All right, here we go.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
[inaudible] no, I became a magician to find out how I do this. Anyway, I want to show you one more time. Very slowly you will get every chance
Speaker 3 (04:38):
you get every chance to see how it’s not done. The four or fives on the top. Honest, so far. Right. Okay, good. I’ll pull up my sleeves so that nothing can happen. Okay. All right. Now look in the middle about the middle there goes to Carter. I didn’t know that it’s really there.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Oh no, it’s not on top yet. Nope.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
If it is on top to begin with, that would be cheating
Speaker 4 (05:15):
anyway. Did he go into the deck? All right there. Now I’ll do it this way.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The whole what? That whole sequence right there. When he’s got the card out, then he puts it up in those fingers as he shuffling the deck and then as he comes back, I mean he’s doing it right there. It’s just brilliant. But it’s all designed to make you think he’s doing a little something and then of course he isn’t. So remember he turns it over. He it. He does it. So it’s just enough that we think, Oh, we caught it. The audience thing happened. He goes, you didn’t catch it, nothing happened.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Just take it back. Just, just don’t before the shuffle out of so everyone could see it. It’s exactly what it looks like when you are not a spiritual hacks. Is it right here? Uh, maybe there yet.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Now they don’t trust me around there, but I look on his don’t die. I’ll do it this way for you.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
This way you can see that all cheating is absolutely honest. Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Okay, great. As long as it’s, when it’s upside down is
Speaker 3 (06:43):
also one small problem. When it’s upside down, the old trick doesn’t work anymore
Speaker 4 (06:50):
because this is
Speaker 3 (06:51):
phase to come to the top. Like this is a little shy, but if you covered the deck of the ACE of clubs, it rises to the top, but never hide in there. That’s a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Udo, that’s good. Yeah, that’s good.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
But if you watch carefully, you can see how it works. If you watch carefully, you see you don’t need to cover the deck with this card when it’s like, this is hope, it goes to the top, like normal
Speaker 4 (07:23):
if you knew. Right. Sometimes I meet people.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Sometimes I need people who think I cheat. No, Julia [inaudible] people they think I put in another card that is already on the top, but I don’t do it. My fingers very fast. Even when they’re looking or something. No, no, no. I’ll do it here on the table. You can see I don’t do anything with my fingers. I would only use my fingertips. Two fingers, not more like these. Now this way, that is no way for me to cheat and no fast movements. I’m not going to fast. Am I? Oh no. Okay. Okay. Now if you watch this side, you can see it happen. Look up. Did you see it go to the top? No, me neither.
We hope you’re enjoying this discussion of Tommy Wonder magic. Remember, you can watch the video above to visually see what we’re talking about.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I’m calling shenanigans. You know, he’s so good at misdirection. He’s so good at misdirection that the way they’re flipping the camera around to make it so that everyone has the better view of the action without meaning to is a better indicator that he’s doing a move. Then you would get if they just added in a two shot, like if you were to rewind that, you would see that we literally lost the actual method within the camera switching. Right? Did y’all notice that? Like they made it so we couldn’t even see they did run it back 20 seconds. I really do. Okay. All right. Let me run it by 20 seconds. This is what happens when professional magicians watch, uh, other master
Speaker 6 (09:09):
magicians here. We have to analyze it in detail. All right, here we go. Uh,
Speaker 5 (09:14):
let’s see. Wonder taught me how to curse in Dutch. Now that’s a skill. I think he told me, he told me how to say clout. Sack. I don’t know what that means. [inaudible] good. Go ahead and use your imagination.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Oh no. Okay. Okay. Now if you watch this side, you can see it happen. Look, go back a little bit further out. Did you see the pasta? Oh no. Okay. If you watch this side, you can see it hard. Look, yeah, I’ll do a drill on the table. You can see I don’t do anything with my fingers. I would only use my fingertips. Two fingers, not more. There was like these now this way, that is no way for me to cheat and no fast movements. I’m not going too fast, am I? Oh no, no. Okay. Okay. Now if you watch this side, you can see it. Half of the guy in the front row. Did you see it go to the top? No.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Speaker 6 (10:23):
positive Adam. Yeah, there is. There was a convention I went to in LA. It was one of the big, I think it was the IBM convention andL and L brought that guy down there to sign autographs and take pictures with them, which is great. And again, the audience, that black guy in the audience, they brought him down, they flew him down and everyone took pictures and posed with them. It was amazing that there’s a couple of famous ones. What’s the, that’s that there’s a guy named David. Is that David or is this the other guy with the muscles?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
For all the people watching these guys were it every shoot that this entire company did, so you would always see him in the front row? They would always be screaming and laughing too much. And when you’re a young magician, you’re trying to watch this tape. Probably you could do. Those guys are so distracted, you know,
Speaker 6 (11:13):
they’re nice guys. I’ve hung out with all of them up there cause I’m in Northern California, so I’m, you know, like a couple of hours away from there. And I’ve been to a couple of those. In fact, that’s where this comes from. This picture is me out on the patio with Tommy that that very day. Wow. Really? The day that the day they shot this. Yeah. Yeah. It was, uh, yeah, that’s, that’s out. That’s him out on the patio having a smoke and I was going out and, you know, be a magic guy and trying to get time with the guy. Yeah. Wow. Oh, you can’t, you guys can’t see it. Hang on, let me, let me highlight it Alex. Uh, let me, uh, uh, am I the, let’s see, start your Starcher for a second.
We hope you’re enjoying this discussion of Tommy Wonder magic. Remember, you can watch the video above to visually see what we’re talking about.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
There you go. The in it, we thought,
Speaker 6 (12:02):
okay, well let, let me, let me turn your video off shows one more time. Yeah. That picture, right? Yeah. That’s up in Tahoe. That’s out on the patio at that loose studio that he loose Langa studio that he had up there. And uh, yeah, I went to a bunch of them up there, but that was definitely like a life changing day. And the joke that’s happening at the beginning of that, I don’t know if you guys have seen these DVDs, but uh, in the DVDs he, he, he demos all of the, uh, vanishing watches inside the box, right, that are in the inside the book. And that’s what that joke is at the beginning. He says, no, no, there might be a watch inside that box because he had just done all of them. And the way they did it was he couldn’t vanish a watch five times and have it appear in a box five times. So he vanished to watch once, did one of the most impressive reproductions inside of a nest of boxes. And then he just started doing them all but never just vanish the watch that one time. And then the watch would just appear in all these weird places and everyone’s freaking out. And it was for the camera so that us as magicians, we could see all these things in action. So that’s what that intro joke was. So, uh, sorry to take it off track a little bit, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Adam, did you have a find the right spot? I would just want to say hi to Glen gold, Becca, or a great magician from Los Angeles. Just a great glad that we’re here. Glen has been, I feel like it’s been over a decade since I’ve seen you. So it’s an absolute pleasure even to see your name. Uh, just making sure Adam’s got this uh, cute back so that we can carry forward with this. Awesome.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Yeah, I’m going to run it back just a little bit. Sorry. Go ahead, Glenn.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
No, you, yeah. Tommy wonder. In addition to teaching you how to say cloud, SAC also told me that he really hated performing and that he performed because it was the only way he could get away with being a magician for a career he loved. You know, I think a lot of magicians know how that feels. I love playing with the magic, love building the magic. Loved working on it. 24 seven but if you don’t show your work, sometimes no one’s really gonna even believe it’s your job. So he had to do what he had to do. Ready? Adam
Speaker 3 (14:17):
[inaudible] sometimes I meet people, sometimes I meet people who think I cheat not to, not the people they think I put in another card that is already on the top, but I don’t do it with my fingers very fast. Even when they’re looking or something. No, no, no. I’ll do it on the table. You can see I don’t do anything with my fingers. I would only use my fingertips. Two fingers, not more like this. Now this way, that is no way for me to cheat and no fast movements. I’m not going too fast, am I? Oh no, no. Okay. Okay. Now if you watch this side, you can see it happen. Look, did you see it go to the top? No. We need it.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Speaker 3 (15:19):
because you liked the trick so much. I will explain it in reality. Of course, the car for a second. It’s imagination. Dwek
Speaker 1 (15:31):
are we going to get into methods and stuff here? Let him do the trick first. Okay, let’s do that
Speaker 3 (15:36):
also. It doesn’t go into the deck. It has never been there. Everything you saw his imagination because he’s my lucky card. I never keep it there. I always keep it separate. Oh my God. Folded here.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Speaker 3 (15:58):
what I don’t understand is how you managed to put on my card in the box.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Speaker 1 (16:14):
all right. Now Steve, what was I wrong? Was I wrong at that moment to let it no, no, no. You’re absolutely correct. Absolutely. Uh, but I’m just saying the misdirection on the, on the, the fold right there of leaving some on the table and coming back is just brilliant. It’s just one of those mind erasing moments. You know, when you put something in, something like that and all people can think about is that, you know, that Oh, he look, he left a few and it’s just such a common thought and it’s a perfect cover. It’s just brilliant.
We hope you’re enjoying this discussion of Tommy Wonder magic. Remember, you can watch the video above to visually see what we’re talking about.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And I, I wonder, you know, put a one in chat if, if you notice that, because you know, it’s one of the most beautiful things in the world when you’re doing a card trick is just leaving some cards on the table at any old time, gives you a reason to go get him back. You can cover virtually anything you need to do with that, right? Yeah. We make any, any pass and visible. And of course in this case a mercury card fold, uh, which incidentally are our recent guest lecture or Larry Wilmore was talking about the fact that he always found that the mercury card fold was a sweaty move. Right. And it, it takes a few moments and you could really see that the Tommy wonder managed to give himself more than enough time to do it without anyone noticing really something.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well, and there’s something else about that fold to Tommy’s is a, is one more full beyond, uh, the six way. Yeah. He’s got that six way fold. So it’s like, it is the mercury fold. So it’s the fold on itself like that. And then you’re taking that the car like this and doing one last fold like that underneath and then pushing everything solid so that he gets that, that six way fold and it’s written. You know, that’s very
Speaker 2 (17:50):
deceptive when you have a folded up that much and it’s in that little tiny box. It’s a beautiful, just a beautiful thing, man. He’s
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Alex. Can you walk everyone, just walk everyone through the one that that’s based on the one that, the one in expert card technique, which is our three month. No, it’s not the mercury. It’s based on the six way and [inaudible]
Speaker 2 (18:06):
all the [inaudible] Paulman yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can just walk through it for everybody. You Palm it and you fold it in, you fold it in and then you fold it down on itself like that and then that gives you six.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
The brilliance of what Tommy wonder did is he actually put that level of folding within a mercury card fold handling.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That’s right. And it’s you and it’s all under the deck. It’s using the deck to make that last fold happen, which is pretty masterful. I think it’s all just really, he’s as good as they get man. Anything on every level to not just, not just the technique but, but the actual structure is like, it’s hard. Listen, when you’re starting out in magic, it’s hard to watch this and realize what’s going on on all these levels, right? So he’s got the technique is masterful, the structure is masterful, and then he’s got the presentation and the persona built on top of that. I don’t who else has got this kind of like who, whoever had this kind of thing. I mean,
Speaker 5 (19:12):
and that’s before you take into account the fact that his machine shop in the basement to do it, you know, it’s, it’s, everything is so amazing that that that doesn’t even come up first. Right? That box. I mean, how many times have we all seen that method for card to box, right? Or variation of that moment. Can you not tell me that having that smaller box and that smaller card doesn’t make it more impossible?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Oh, and he has another thing that’s going on that the hinge on that box, it’s a piano hinge. So it’s a really soft Tange so you can flop that thing back and forth and the lid will flop open and close like a little pack man. So he has that card folded and he puts the box down and the lid flaps open a little bit and it grabs that card so that it looks like it’s falling out of the box at the last minute. It really did look like. Yeah. That was like the most perfect illusion ever. I loved that. Yeah. That’s really good. Is there more? Less? Is there more after this part? Is there more to this?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Not have that routine.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh, cause it says it has one. Oh it says 40 seconds left. So I didn’t know if there was more to the end of it. He might just have some finishing comments, you know,
Speaker 5 (20:24):
that’s literally Mike responding
Speaker 2 (20:27):
more. Oh, I got you. Okay. All right, cool. Cool. Cool. Well that was the, that was the first thing I wanted you guys to see. I know, I know a few of you guys have seen that routine before, but it’s been a while, right? You haven’t probably lost it.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah. That was awesome. I’m still not entirely sure how after he did the object card, you know, I’m still not entirely sure how it got to the top of the other half. I think he might’ve shared
Speaker 6 (20:52):
that. Is that Lorraine Lorraine thing, right? It was in Lorraine’s ambitious card routine. He’s just doing it from the back I think. But Tommy is doing it from the front. So he’s got, he’s got the double, he puts in the center like this and he’s doing this move right saying no, it’s still there. It’s still there. Then he does this, pushes it in and then puts this one packet on top of everything and then squares everything up. And now that, and then, then the card is, you know, back on top.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
He did it so swiftly and at the same moment as so, so that it acted not like a visible cut, but like a shift because it’s psychologically you could watch it over and over and over again. Not feel like he’s shifting the packets at that time. This is an interesting question from a Glenn goal, a gold, uh, Beck gold back. What are your thoughts on say, Regal’s clarity box? So, so there have been, you know, uh, I’m also, I’m forgetting off the top of my head. I keep thinking caps, but caps might be the ribbon. Who is the core idea of the box? Kennedy? No, just, just the box and the shuttle pass.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
[inaudible] maybe or Hennig it. He’s like, he’s like a German guy or something. But he was the first one that had the box that had the thread in the bottom that held the card behind so that you could do the, the dump, the fake dump.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Okay. Swipe up. The ribbon was, was red caps or something, but, but that’s
Speaker 6 (22:11):
red caps was who, who popularized it. But it was this guy’s trick. And then Fred did it on TV and then it became a thing.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Okay. So now in the modern era, since Kennedy, there has been
Speaker 6 (22:22):
[inaudible]. That’s it. Nice word. Kristoff.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
There have been so many handlings of this, which allow you to have an empty box first. Right? Uh, we saw one the other night that’s no longer available that Kohler had out for several hundred dollars to lease. Uh, Kennedy’s of course is this sort of modern version that they’re all based on. Cause you can show the boxes empty and then you know, a little something happens, you open it up and you can see a card then you dump. And then of course it’s not in there anymore. They all have a mechanism which does that. Now. David Regal a couple of years ago put out something called clarity box where the box is crystal clear throughout the whole thing. And then you do it. Now. Just a little bit of a disclaimer before we share our thoughts on this cause I think we all may have different thoughts on this and this is one of these things where we really have not compared our thoughts on this and we’re going to try and get it your straight.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Um, but just want to say in advance, we think David Regal is a genius. He’s a dear friend of ours, a dear friend of CCS. He did an Epic living room lecture for us, which numbers you can find in the back room right now. Uh, and so he always has really great ideas. So I think we can say ahead of time that the clarity box is a great idea. But now you’re asking Glenn, how do we feel personally about these? Would we personally go for, for a clear box? Is that more or less the nature of it? Let me just throw Adam on the spot. Adam, how about you unmute yourself?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, uh, to be clear, I, I, I like Regal’s clarity box myself. I actually like it. I believe it is. Uh, but this is a key thing. It’s a different effect. I mean this, it has a different effect on the audience than what we just saw Tommy wonder do right? Because with the clarity box, just so you understand, and I’m not going to talk about the method, I’m just talking about the effect with the clarity box. The card is in the box, the sign card is folded and in the box, the entire show sitting there on the table. So you get to the end of the ambitious card routine. Now you turn to the box, you take it off and you very clearly dump it out of the box. They unfolded. It’s their sidecar and that’s different. Theirs, theirs, it has a different impact on it. And clearly with, with Tommy Wonder’s version, there’s a mystery as to what’s in there to begin with. What he says is in there versus what you think. So the surprise is, is different. This, this is baffling I’ve seen when Regal does, I mean it is baffling like you, you, unless you know the method, it is a baffling, baffling trick. You cannot figure it out. Um, but it’s just different. It just feels right.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
No doubt that the Regal box can be seen on stage. And that’s, you know, something that, you know, Jim Steinmeyer has been, uh, every time I’ve conversed with him over the years about magic, you’s got a real pet peeve just by, and so that was one of the greatest geniuses of the last century, uh, smartest magicians since Oak Quito, uh, that close up. Magicians have a real hard time with the idea that audiences, when they’re watching magic on stage, they need to see something. So, so we are often taking pride in the fact that we can make, as he would say, a postage stamp play to a large room. Uh, but actually we’re only hurting ourselves when it helps the audience to be able to see a little something. So that’s one aspect of it, which is aesthetically maybe very important if you’re performing for a larger group of people and you want to make that thing visible, that would matter, right?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
It would matter a lot. And I think the other thing you’re getting at at them is that you can’t, it’s not accurate to compare every single option as if one thing is stronger or the other one is stronger. A stronger is one way to compare things, but also different means like does it, it has a different taste, a different flavor, a different feeling. And it’s a heart at a certain point to describe those feelings, right? Because they’re just the, they end up transferring, uh, translating as emotions that the audience feels and they’re a little too delicate for you to just say, ah, that one’s better, stronger, harder. It doesn’t make sense. Yes.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
There. There is a difference because I, I’ve played with all these boxes. I own almost all of the boxes. I have lightning box, I have the Kennedy box, I have the clear box from Regal. The thing is is that those other boxes aside from the Regal box, they’re great for closeup. They’re great when people are right here. But that clear box is great for what you were talking about earlier for setting up a situation that’s coming in the future. And I use this on stage. It’s the only time I ever used the clear one is on stage. I don’t think close up at it. It serves. It’s the prop, you know, I don’t think it does it justice, but when you’re doing it on stage, it’s a thing that’s sitting there. And for me it was a thing that was at the very end of the show.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
So it’s building anticipation. It’s sitting there the whole time. There’s a folded up card says open the glass in case of emergency and it’s a mysterious thing that’s sitting there that’s setting up interest and letting their minds run wild the entire time that you’re doing. Magic and those other boxes don’t do that. So I think for that, that there’s, there’s some built in mojo in the thing. The other ones, they’re just a mystery box. There’s a box, you know, you have, you might like the lightning box. It’s cool cause you can have other stuff in it and it’s just a receptacle you’re carrying. And then eventually something goes in there and that’s more akin to like a card in the wallet, you know, rather than it being this situation that’s set up that it could be going there. What’s that card in there for? There’s going to be something that has to do with that card. I don’t know what. And I don’t know in that situation the ambitious card is the best thing for that box either. A, I did not use it for ambitious cards. So
Speaker 5 (28:15):
that’s at the end of the day. I mean we could get off into the weeds there, but I think that legitimate arguing can be made when, when that ending happens to an ambitious card, it’s really just a transition to a different song. So you’ve got the end of the ambitious card and then you’ve got this transition into what is a car, that impossible location but, but to actually stay that it’s the last phase of the ambitious card. Some people would say that’s a semantic point, but I think it’s really important because in most cases we are leveraging the ambitious card, uh, infrastructure to do an entirely different card to impossible location effect. You know, uh, [inaudible] Tommy’s trick, that box was there the whole time, but it was very easy not to give any thought to advantaged psychologically right up until you brought us back there. Now you’re saying when we watch David Regal’s box, it’s never really out of our mind and in every trick we’re thinking when we see a card, is that where it’s going? Is that involved? Is this, the thing is now the time, is this the moment? And so it adds a whole different undercurrent and a through line to the show, which is great if your show needs a through line. Right.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
When you’re thinking about it like that, it’s probably wise to stop looking at that Regal box is just a card revelation to you. I would go more towards it. Like that’s the next step for me is that as having it be a piece
Speaker 5 (29:42):
of paper. So it’s something that’s written down in there rather than a playing card. You know what I mean? Because that’s one of the great things about Regal’s boxes and it’s pretty versatile too. You can have, Oh, so you’re saying it’s a prediction. It’s ideal.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah. Yeah. I think that’s probably the best thing to do with that. Yeah, you cause you can have, you can have money. I mean you could have a folded dollar bill in here or folded piece of paper in fact. But when you, when you get this, it comes with a lot of different ideas. Regal, fully thought all of that out. Um, so
Speaker 5 (30:10):
one of the best card boxes that there is, that’s, that’s the bottom line. Have you been in Glenn? I’m not sure. Glenn gold Beck got the exact answer he wants. But I’ll tell ya, if I was doing a show, I would love to do the car and it’d be impossible box and then use that thing as a prediction because then it’s not paradoxical at all. That’s right. Right. It’s merely there now like box. It’s protecting something for later, but it’s like confabulation right now you name, you know, how many drinks do you want to have now? You name your favorite cocktail. Now you name your favorite bartender and now you name your, you know, your mother’s maiden name. I think you just hit the home run. That’s what it is. It wants to be confabulation inside that box. That’s great. Yeah. Which is great. There’s now your little closeup guy can actually carry both boxes, do the show and still not have a bigger act and still haven’t played huge. And kebabs relations one of those tricks that plays a huge, even though it fits in into the size of that below box.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Well, I’m glad you guys liked that. Uh, clip. I actually, um, so for the next clip, uh, I also picked another Tommy wonder trick. Okay. Because there’s one, there’s one trick that he does, I think is just, it’s a card trick, but, but I think it just like blows almost everything else out of the water. I can’t wait for you guys to watch it. Get your reactions to this. Uh, so let’s watch it right now. This is a Tommy wonders, uh,
Speaker 7 (31:38):
tamed card. Oh, this is great.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Speaker 3 (31:53):
yeah, that was just a little thing I learned from my mother and, uh, sorry. It’s uh, do you go? No, it’s, no, it’s time. It’s time for my hobby. Um, you don’t, you don’t mind. I do my hobby now. Continue to magic later. Okay. Just make it, just make it Chanelle. I would like you to point to a card when I say so. Not before. Not after. It’s a couple more seconds. I’ll tell you when you point to a card. No, exactly. Thank you. That’s good. No, I mean really perfectly on time. It was, no, exactly. Thank you. It’s a no, maybe I explained, uh, it’s my hobby. I collect playing cards. We start chosen exactly at this time, so I had to put this on. I find a collection, I find a collection. These cards are chosen by different,
Speaker 2 (33:00):
like I totally thought he just did something right there, but, but he didn’t like, I thought he did, but he did
Speaker 3 (33:06):
from people, different places in the world. And you notice it’s always the Fordham club always at this time. Yeah. It’s always the, yeah. I don’t know why people always choose four of clubs, but I think that is some scientific reason for it. I don’t know. But anyway, it’s so important.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Speaker 3 (33:34):
you it will be. Yeah, but birthday or not, it’s their own car. I mean, let’s be honest. I mean no one even remotely does it look like it? I mean it’s totally different. Okay, the back is fine. Tobacco is fine. But do you mind if I change your card to a four o’clock I can put it in a collection. It’s very simple to change your card because you just put another four of clubs on top of you, Rob. If you watch it comes up for you. See normally they do checks
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Um, there’s so much power out of that one little tiny effect. Like so much power out of that one little things.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
You know what? I’ll do it differently. I’ll do it differently. I’ll just change the collections. Mind you, it’s a lot more work for me. You see that you, you gotta you got a Jack of diamonds, so I may have a look at the cards. I have a look at the car. He said anything wrong with them? No double layers. Special things or anything? No, no, no. That’s true. Because if you change, you know it’s not heat either. Look here, Rob brought up the car. Does anything go off? Nothing goes up. No. No, but you’re up. Like these are
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Speaker 6 (35:39):
You know, there’s something out there. I highly encourage everybody to go look for. Uh, I don’t know if it’s easy to find, uh, maybe you could find it at them. There’s a clip of Tommy doing that on Dutch television in Dutch [inaudible] and the guy is harassing you. Like the guy’s giving him a bad time. The host of the show is like trying to bust them on the magic and it’s just a great lesson in seeing a professional like work with a person like that and still get to the end and have that same reaction that you just did there. Even though the guy was like basically heckling him the entire performance. You know, it’s really amazing. It’s totally worth, worth your time. Very cool trick though. I love that. I think that’s the best handling of wildcard that there is. I don’t think there’s anything that’s even a close second.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, I mean, I guess this does every put, give us a one in chat please, if you, if you are not familiar with wildcard as a plot.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Okay. Alright, so, so Steve, how would you describe the plot? The traditional plot is succinctly as possible. Well, I mean it’s basically what you just saw. You start out with one particular card, could be anything, uh, and then everything changes over. But it’s usually done on the table. It’s usually like a tabled kind of thing and he makes it into, in the hands, uh, which I think is really fantastic. And Gleaner. Right. I mean that’s way cane. Yeah. His handling is way cleaner than what you would originally get. But you know the thing, I mean that’s a, that’s a good point. The thing that gets me is like, you look at a guy like a Tommy wonder and he is just like a genius artist and I don’t, I don’t know what words I’m trying to use, but it’s just like the general people don’t think of a Tommy wonder when they think of a magician and they should because he’s the guy that is like on this whole nother level of, of, you know, anything else you would normally see.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
You know, he’s just on a whole nother level and just a genius. And it’s, it’s sad that we lost him, you know, because really he’s written great books and he’s, you spend time with people. But really that, that magic, that special Tommy wonder spice has gone, you know, something you noticed to Steve, like where that he has this, he has this handling to that that feels so it feels so loose. Like, you know, every, you know, you know anyone who doesn’t know this, who’s watching this video, every little move, every little gesture is planned out. Yeah. But, but he makes it look like, uh, so sloppy and you just do this here. Look what happens. I mean, it’s just so, it feels so free and there’s something about that that super magical. I think there’s something to be learned from that because that is exactly true.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
It all is planned out, but it’s still seems like it’s just coming off the top of his head. Like it’s just in this moment right now. Everything is motivated. Everything is happening. Well. Have you ever noticed, right. He has an interesting twist on it. He’s surprised that it happened, but he does it. But, but he’s not surprised because he didn’t know that it was going to happen. He’s more surprised that it happened again. Does that make sense? Yeah. It’s a build each time. Yeah. It’s so, it’s so above just like, Oh, I didn’t know I could do that. It’s like, I know I can do it. I’m just surprised it’s still happening
Speaker 2 (39:06):
a lot. A lot of magicians look, a lot of magicians would take that effect and they would say, all right, in this trick, what I’m going to do is I’m going to change this, this card here into this card and I watch, and then they would do something and the two cards would be the same, but that’s not how Tommy phrases this at all Tommy’s talks about is his got this collection. He gets his tie. You know there’s a story, he’s wrong, it’s got the magician in trouble plot. The audience really gets pulled into that. They, they’re like, they’re really fascinated by it. He has a, he has an off the cuff solution to the issue here. I’ll fix it this way. I will, I’ll change the collection Alex. It has to do with uh,
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Speaker 6 (39:46):
why should I care, right? And irregular trick like that. Watch how cool am I can make this change happen and that he solving a problem that has come up for a thing that he just set up and there’s a reason for everyone to care because he’s frustrated. He was trying to do this card collecting thing and it went completely backwards from what he thought. And everyone’s with them and they’re like, how’s he going to get out of this? We finally saw the magician fail. We were here for it. And they’re on that ride and he takes them right along the whole way because they’re now, they know what the, why is his, why his wife to make it right for me. And now all the impossibility is happening and there’s a reason for them to care. And if a magician just gone, here’s a card watch and there are changes, I’m great.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Who cares? Yeah. Mommy’s never smug. You know, he’s never. So, uh, Glen said, do you, um, do you think the average layman would realize what a genius he is and um, I think the average layman hasn’t been exposed to genius like that. You know? And, and I don’t mean necessarily seeing it on TV. I mean, being one of 10 or 15 people in a great magician, like Tommy wonder his presence, the seeking that moment to share that. That’s when magic happens in that moment right there. You know, and, uh, and I think that’s the sad part about it is, you know, like we’re all big music fans. We’ll go anywhere to see a band that we love, you know, but you know, we’re also in the few that would go anywhere to see a magician that we love. And I don’t think that’s out in the world. You know, I think it, I mean, I, I think it’s totally possible that if you were to, you know, literally enough, uh, dirty coasters around Tommy wonder and play at DJ loud enough over him and still have him take the money and do the gig, it’s possible you might miss it. But I think there’s such a level of, certainly
Speaker 5 (41:34):
not all of it, but there’s such a level of detail in everything he does that I think people can perceive in the same way you can perceive a meal has had a great deal of, of, of choices made in it and a great deal of effort put into it. There’s just a certain level of detail and texture to it, which they, you know, they, they get the impression that this guy is really not your average guy. You know what I mean? And I, and I think that just very clearly in the way he handles things and the way he reacts to things, there’s something that feels so unique about it that I, I think, or at least I hope that that audiences do have ways that they can perceive that even if it’s not the aspects of it that we, we, we consider to be the most important. Normally, you know, what, you stay on top of that, on top of what you just said, is that it’s beyond the magic. He seems like somebody beyond the magic who, who is just an amazing person you would want to meet. You know, and I think that adds to his mystique, you know,
Speaker 2 (42:46):
on, uh, on YouTube, uh, diesel illusion says, uh, what is amazing is how cleanly he handles his additions. And, uh, so thank you for that comment. Yep. Uh, your right. Uh, also, you know, I want to say, uh, thank you for tuning in on our a YouTube channel, you guys, and if you enjoy this kind of thing, like subscribe, hit that little bell button so you’ll be reminded. Uh, we are doing these a almost daily now here at Chondra community. Um, so, uh, yeah, support the, uh, support the channel and subscribe and you’ll, uh, you’ll get alerted every time. We’re, uh, we’re about to go to that. So what’d you guys think about today’s selections? Little Tommy wonder day, huh?
Speaker 5 (43:31):
Uh, Doug is absolutely sensational, absolutely sensational. There’s so many things in Tommy wonders book that don’t use any ordinary kind of props, right? Uh, both of these look like card tricks, but at the end of that wild card there, there’s never any sense that there could be anything tricky with those cards. Right? The same cards are left on the table at the end, but your questions are answered. You’ve given up wondering what could happen. And there’s, the last thing on your mind is that the cards could be, you know, anything other than what they appear to be. It’s just magic. You know, it’s such a clear example of both of those tricks have that same look. You know, she’s really amazing. The cartridge like that. Yeah. Yeah, they do. They both have that same look and feel. I guess we should just call it the, the wonder touch. Maybe I don’t, the touch of wonder, the touch of wonder. Yeah. Cool. Well, any thoughts or
Speaker 2 (44:32):
last words from anybody on the Tommy wonder videos today? Yeah, this was great. They were wonderful. I love Tommy. I’m a super fan of Tommy wonder.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Yeah. Uh, our members should know, uh, if you’re a CC club member, uh, your earn CC cash in the store when you happen to pick up a Tommy wonder book if they’re still in stock. Um, we don’t make casual in salesmen CC store, but, uh, that you do. So that’s an awesome thing. And those particular two tricks. That book has gotten not only the, probably the best single booklet in the front of it, on the topic of misdirection that you’re ever going to find anywhere, the best singly written, and it’s a very first item in the book and it’s a incredibly powerful, you’ll be, uh, eating off of it forever. But those two tricks are both two examples of tricks in that book that literally use either easily gotten double, uh, props like a simple wildcard set that you can get anywhere or [inaudible] which are not expensive at all. Or an ambitious card routine. The bathroom majority of that ambitious Gardner Jane is just using a deck of cards and a pen. If you want to do something in the box, that’s a separate trick and a separate matter. And there’s all kinds of stuff in the book that involve that. So I would say that it’s really one of the most must have books in the world of magic. And those are two examples of things where you can really get your hands dirty immediately with it.
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Speaker 2 (45:55):
Those are the, those are the books. The books of wonder is what he’s talking about.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Volumes one and two. You need them both. And, and, uh, again for our members, uh, again, you just got to go check the CC Facebook group in order to find that link to the jam session with Michael Sproul, which is going to be starting in the next few minutes. You have time to go use the washroom. And if you’re watching us, uh, on, on another streaming area, go ahead and click subscribe, click like share it with your friends and join us. I believe we’re going to be back, uh, tomorrow with another one of these. And uh, we’ll be doing a few next week too. So, uh, we are here, he’s the afternoon establishment experiences. So, uh, thank you so much for joining us. Condor community live and club members will see it tonight. The member mastermind.
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